Raw Greens and Thyroid

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Linda F.
Joined: 1/30/2013

Hello All,

I am so bummed, I was so excited to finally be able to buy my nutribullet and was really enjoying my green smoothies. I had part of my kidny removed two years ago due to renal cell carcinoma and have had a host of other health problems. I have read so much about the cancer fighting properties of vegetables such as kale, brocolli, spinach, etc. However, I also am hypothyroid and on medication. I have always know not to eat to much of the raw cruciferous vegetables such as broccoli and cauliflower (which is something I have always ate a lot of), but I was not aware that raw spinach and kale were also not good for people with low thryoid.

So if I can't have the raw greens, what other green vegetable other than lettuce would have the same amount of anti-oxidant and health properties as kale, spinach, etc. I really want to do the green smoothies, but don't want to lower my thyroid function any more than it already is.

 

Thanks for any suggestions. I ahve tried zuccini and herbs, but its not the same.

 

You are correct kale is actually in the same family as cruciferous veggies that contain substances known as goitrogens. These may interfere with thyroid function in those with already compromised thyroid health. The goal is to create a NutriBlast with fewer (not necessary to eliminate them) of these foods and possibly more selenium and iodine (both are necessary for proper thyroid functioning) if your Dr. sees any type of deficiency. Cooking has been shown to inactivate the goitrogenic compounds, for individuals with deficient thyroid hormone production, cooking of cruciferous vegetables is highly recommended. A Thyroid Nutriblast may be as follows: 1 Apple ½ cup Pineapple ½ Beetroot with tops 1 Stalk Celery 1 Carrot 1 Brazil nut 1 tsp seaweed powder Other Substititions for cruciferious vegetables: celery, celery leaves, silverbeet (chard), beetroot (beet), beetroot leaves, Romaine lettuce, zucchini, cucumber, lemon, limes, orange and watermelon to name a few. http://www.rebootwithjoe.com/hyperthyroidism-and-goitrogens/ Please discuss these recommendations with your personal primary care physician to make sure they are appropriate with your medication and kidney condition.
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It worked when I clicked on it. Maybe copy and paste it into your browser.
That post surprised me about the thyroid. I have had thyroid disease since the 70's and never heard that and I thought I knew everything about the thyroid. I'm thinking if thyroid is controlled on meds raw veggies should be fine. I know soy is not good. I have lost 73lbs on weight watchers and I eat or drink plenty of greens and fruit. Learn something new everyday. That's why I hate reading info on internet....
Wow, I didn't know all that! I've been having a lot of issues with my thyroid med lately. I had more than 3/4 of my thyroid removed due to cancer and take synthroid every day. I also happen to mostly use (and a lot) kale, spinach, broccoli, collard greens, & cauliflower. I'm having a lot of issues but my doctor is aware of the diet and never said anything. Should I stop?? I really don't want to, it's the first "life style" change to ever work for me..I'm so sad now :( Had to edit and ad that my synthroid has been too high and my doctor has lowered it twice. I was on 175mcg after 12/05/13, changed to 150mcg in February and now he changed to 125mcg on 3/20/13. My thyroid level was .12 (mIU/L) on 12/05/13 and then .01 (mIU/L) on 2/13/13. I don't understand, it's been low but I've been getting a lot of symptoms of hyperthyroidism (anxiety, irritability, fatigue, insomnia)..specially rapid & irregular heart beats and palpitations. It's been so bad that I have to have my heart checked next week. So, my doctor keeps lowering and I do feel better..but my test come out that it's even lower?? I'm so confused, I really have to go to an endocrinologist. I love my doctor but I don't think he's doing enough for me :(
Loide2013 wrote: Wow, I didn't know all that! I've been having a lot of issues with my thyroid med lately. I had more than 3/4 of my thyroid removed due to cancer and take synthroid every day. I also happen to mostly use (and a lot) kale, spinach, broccoli, collard greens, & cauliflower. I'm having a lot of issues but my doctor is aware of the diet and never said anything. Should I stop?? I really don't want to, it's the first "life style" change to ever work for me..I'm so sad now :( Had to edit and ad that my synthroid has been too high and my doctor has lowered it twice. I was on 175mcg after 12/05/13, changed to 150mcg in February and now he changed to 125mcg on 3/20/13. My thyroid level was .12 (mIU/L) on 12/05/13 and then .01 (mIU/L) on 2/13/13. I don't understand, it's been low but I've been getting a lot of symptoms of hyperthyroidism (anxiety, irritability, fatigue, insomnia)..specially rapid & irregular heart beats and palpitations. It's been so bad that I have to have my heart checked next week. So, my doctor keeps lowering and I do feel better..but my test come out that it's even lower?? I'm so confused, I really have to go to an endocrinologist. I love my doctor but I don't think he's doing enough for me :(
Loide, when taking medications to help regulate the thyroid, it might be okay for some people to consume these goitrogenic foods, however we are all different. Therefore, I cannot provide specific recommendations because I do not know everything about your condition. From what you've told me, I would suggest cutting back or cutting out the highly goitrogenic foods until you have a better understanding of what is going on. There are several other foods that are healthy for you to include in your NutriBlast as I mentioned below. In addition, you could also try cooking some of the cruciferous veggies and greens since cooking has been shown to inactivate these thyroid disrupting compounds. Here is another website with some more information about thyroid health to help you begin your research and to arm you with things to discuss with your Dr.! http://drhyman.com/blog/2010/05/20/a-7-step-plan-to-boost-your-low-thyroid-and-metabolis/ I do suggest getting advice from an endocrinologist. It's always good to have a second opinion. Wishing you the best. Please keep me posted on your check up. Hope all turns out well.
Hi i just bought the superboost powder do you know if its ok to take with thyroidism??
dara61 wrote: Hi i just bought the superboost powder do you know if its ok to take with thyroidism??
As with all supplements, please discuss them with your Dr. However, the ingredients found in our Superfood Superboost are thyroid-friendly!
I have high blood pressure and would like to lower it from about 165/110 to 115/80 any suggestions! Mark W
Mark Wise wrote: I have high blood pressure and would like to lower it from about 165/110 to 115/80 any suggestions! Mark W
Anytime you increase veggies and fruits in your diet, a side effect is usually lowered blood pressure. Making a switch to having 50% of you meals be veggie based with also help. Check out these recipes: http://www.nutriliving.com/recipes/blood-pressure-ambrosia http://www.nutriliving.com/recipes/whirled-peas
Hello everyone, my question is basic. What is the best way to store these raw greens. I buy the big bag of spinach and kale, after opening the store bag, I've been transferring them into a zip lock bag but this keeps for only a few days till the bottom of bag is welted wet leaves. If someone knows a way to keep these fresh for longer than a week, please let me know. Thanks!
Leadonne wrote: Hello everyone, my question is basic. What is the best way to store these raw greens. I buy the big bag of spinach and kale, after opening the store bag, I've been transferring them into a zip lock bag but this keeps for only a few days till the bottom of bag is welted wet leaves. If someone knows a way to keep these fresh for longer than a week, please let me know. Thanks!
If you have lettuce that your not going to use for a few days "crisp" it. Fill the sink with cool water to rinse, trim the root end and soak it for a few minutes. Let it drain and dry well (using a salad spinner is helpful) and store it in the crisper in a bag with the top open so moisture doesn't get trapped. A damp paper towel in your bag will help too. This also works with most herbs (basil doesn't come back well), celery, and cooking greens like chard or kale. If you find any decaying or moldy leaves remove them. You really should use lettuce within a couple days of purchase. It not only nutritionally degrades, but it's flavor suffers as well. Another option is to freeze it to lock in the nutrients and keep it usable for longer :)
I also have hypothyroidism and on medication. My doctors suggested that I use beet greens, cucumbers, or swiss chard. I think the red swiss chard tast like the beet greens which I love. You will be amazed if you add a touch of lime juice to any juice that doesn't taste to your liking at first, how it gives the kick that is needed. Enjoy!
Krista, I know that cookingKrista, I know that cooking helps with the goitrogenic compounds, but how much? Can steaming until crisp/tender be enough? How much nutrition is sacrificed through cooking? I guess a better question is, is it better to substitute a whole raw food than to use a steamed cruciferous one, if you are a person who cannot tolerate the raw cruciferous ones? I'm also curious: Has anyone tried adding steamed cruciferous veggies to a Nutriblast? I'm thinking of steaming then chilling or freezing, so that the steamed veggies don't heat up my blast. Say, steam in the morning, consume at lunch time? Any thoughts? Thanks!
Hamiltons wrote: Krista, I know that cooking helps with the goitrogenic compounds, but how much? Can steaming until crisp/tender be enough? How much nutrition is sacrificed through cooking? I guess a better question is, is it better to substitute a whole raw food than to use a steamed cruciferous one, if you are a person who cannot tolerate the raw cruciferous ones? I'm also curious: Has anyone tried adding steamed cruciferous veggies to a Nutriblast? I'm thinking of steaming then chilling or freezing, so that the steamed veggies don't heat up my blast. Say, steam in the morning, consume at lunch time? Any thoughts? Thanks!
Cooking is supposed to decrease goitrogenic compounds to levels where they are safe to consume with a thyroid problem. Certain nutrients are lost through the cooking process and certain nutrients are enhanced. Kale for example has a better ability to lower cholesterol when it is steamed vs. raw but it has higher vitamin C content when it is raw. I actually used some steamed kale in my Blast this morning and it was delicious! Sounds like you have a good plan of attack!
I have been on thyroid medication for quite a few years now and no one has mentioned any foods to avoid, I am vegetarian and have been for over 30 years, I have just looked on the medication box and it says nothing about avoiding certain foods. Where is all the information coming from regarding food and thyroid, I would really like to read it and see if there is anything I am doing or not doing that is making it worse. Many thanks, Glenda
PurplePoet20-283 wrote: I have been on thyroid medication for quite a few years now and no one has mentioned any foods to avoid, I am vegetarian and have been for over 30 years, I have just looked on the medication box and it says nothing about avoiding certain foods. Where is all the information coming from regarding food and thyroid, I would really like to read it and see if there is anything I am doing or not doing that is making it worse. Many thanks, Glenda
Glenda, I'm not sure what you mean by "where is all this information coming from...". This information is found in research (check out the bottom of this article here: http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=george&dbid=250) When taking a thyroid medication, your thyroid is being regulated so most often consuming foods with goitrogens does not disturb its effects. However, for thyroid health for those with underactive thyroid and not on medications it is usually best to avoid foods high in goitrogens (particularly cruciferous veggies and soy). Here's an article to get you started...type in "thyroid" in the search bar on the home page for more! http://www.nutriliving.com/blog/blasting-thyroid-health
So with the link above the article says there is no reason why you can't enjoy cruciferous vegetables with thyroid conditions. I'm hypothyroid and with the juicing I have never felt better. I am hoping eventually my dr. will see I'm doing so good he will take me off all these meds..Melissa
Hi, Krista. I am also hypothyroid as well as auto-immune. I can attest to the raw, leafy greens being hard on the thyroid. Every time I've ever juiced spinach, etc., I feel terrible. Brain fog, irritation, etc. while others around me are getting energy boosts. I'm interested in trying the thyroid blast you mentioned. Can this be done very day, or should I rotate recipes? It's easier for me to just have one or two recipes due to work and lack of time, but I also am aware the body can begin to develop sensitives if too much of particular foods are consumed daily. Thank you, Trish.
GermanGirlWithCurls wrote: Hi, Krista. I am also hypothyroid as well as auto-immune. I can attest to the raw, leafy greens being hard on the thyroid. Every time I've ever juiced spinach, etc., I feel terrible. Brain fog, irritation, etc. while others around me are getting energy boosts. I'm interested in trying the thyroid blast you mentioned. Can this be done very day, or should I rotate recipes? It's easier for me to just have one or two recipes due to work and lack of time, but I also am aware the body can begin to develop sensitives if too much of particular foods are consumed daily. Thank you, Trish.
Hey Trish. It is always best to rotate ingredients, this gives your body exposure to a variety of nutrients and may take some strain off your thyroid. See what works best for you and monitor how you are feeling. If you find a food that makes you bad, take it out of the rotation.
Hello everybody. You may want to add some seaweed or kelp as a boost to your drinks. Seaweeds are a great source of minerals and iodine for thyroid support. I use kombu because it is the least fishy tasting (which I don't like anything fishy). You could definitely use any of the other dried seaweeds as well. You can purchase these at most of your health food stores and sometimes at the regular grocery.
Hi Melissa! Im also hypothyroid, and thanks for the great answer, I also eat about every single kind of veggie and i always feel great, also wanted to let you know that my dr got me out of the meds......i decided to show her that i was better off without them how? I stop taking them for four month before i saw her again, i am not telling you to do the same but honestly i was feeling kinda funny after taking my meds, so i went for my annual bloodwork and guess what? It was working better qithout them, if you are living a healthy lifestyle you have nothing to worry about.
I am a bit confused or perhaps need guidance. What do you do when you need to lose weight and also have a thyroid issue? Seems most of the weight loss blasts concentrate on veggies and state we should use only a small bit of fruit, but with a thyroid issue it is important to balance the two. Are there recipes for losing weight with a thyroid issue?
Monica Brinkman wrote: I am a bit confused or perhaps need guidance. What do you do when you need to lose weight and also have a thyroid issue? Seems most of the weight loss blasts concentrate on veggies and state we should use only a small bit of fruit, but with a thyroid issue it is important to balance the two. Are there recipes for losing weight with a thyroid issue?
Focus on thyroid health. Hormone balance is strongly related to weight management so hopefully when your thyroid is regulated, weight loss will become easier.
I have been on some sites that say chard is a cruciferous vegetable and others that don't mention it is. Does anyone here know if it is or isn't? I am also searching for alternatives to cruciferous veggies due to hypothyrodism concerns. Thank you for your help!
bellalicious808 wrote: I have been on some sites that say chard is a cruciferous vegetable and others that don't mention it is. Does anyone here know if it is or isn't? I am also searching for alternatives to cruciferous veggies due to hypothyrodism concerns. Thank you for your help!
Chard is a cruciferous vegetable, to decrease goitrogen content you can always cook the chard before eating it or adding it to your Blast.
I am hypothyroid and take levothyroxine 50 mgs. daily. I feel great and even more great drinking my nutrablasts daily. I recently went to a new natropathic doctor who did lots of bloodwork on me including the thyroid panel. We will see if my thyroid levels have suffered because of all the daily green drinks. Every day, my blasts include spinich, kale or power greens, whatever I have around. I will report back when I go to see the results.
I found Trish's (#9 above) comments interesting regarding her reaction to spinach. I've been making blasts for just over a week and have been feeling very tired and the past couple of days, very irritable. I've only been using spinach as I'm trying to play with flavours and the recipes. I'm also hypothyroid and being treated with synthroid and cytomel. I have baby romaine in the fridge so will use that tomorrow and see if I feel any different. I had thought I was going through some kind of adjustment to the mixture plus I'm adding superfoods to my blasts - maca, hempseeds, spirulina. Also, is there a way to receive notification when a response has been posted?
When I purchase any greens, celery, carrots, as well as fruits, berries, I. Put them in a ziplock bag and surrounded by paper towels. Then I roll up the bag very tight and close. Sometime I use a straw at the very end of closing to suck out the air. My greens and fruit last over a week.
Sine wrote: I found Trish's (#9 above) comments interesting regarding her reaction to spinach. I've been making blasts for just over a week and have been feeling very tired and the past couple of days, very irritable. I've only been using spinach as I'm trying to play with flavours and the recipes. I'm also hypothyroid and being treated with synthroid and cytomel. I have baby romaine in the fridge so will use that tomorrow and see if I feel any different. I had thought I was going through some kind of adjustment to the mixture plus I'm adding superfoods to my blasts - maca, hempseeds, spirulina. Also, is there a way to receive notification when a response has been posted?
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I also have thyroid issues as well as being prediabetic. I need to limit the raw greens and watch the fruit intake. Basically I use the nutribullet just like I would my blender. Probably should have just stuck to the blender.
I also have thyroid issues as well as being prediabetic. I need to limit the raw greens and watch the fruit intake. Basically I use the nutribullet just like I would my blender. Probably should have just stuck to the blender. Most of the recipes I can't utilize. Also have diverticulosis so ca't even have the hemp seeds, they are to hard and cause problems so gave them up about a year ago.
I too have hypothyroid with Hashimoto's and try to limit foods with goitrogens. Would the Superfoods Greens mix product contain the same or fewer goitrogens? I was hoping to use it instead of blanching or steaming greens.
jakina22 wrote: I too have hypothyroid with Hashimoto's and try to limit foods with goitrogens. Would the Superfoods Greens mix product contain the same or fewer goitrogens? I was hoping to use it instead of blanching or steaming greens.
If you use one serving, the amount would be so small, that goitrogens should not be an issue.
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